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		<title>Comment on TTPA Meeting Tomorrow Night:  Agenda by patransitions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there!

This post is from May, so that would be a potential source of your confusion. :)

The next general meeting, plus a film, will be October 13th.  Dan has secured the Abbeyfield space for the meeting and likely more meetings in the future.

The other event on the agenda is the 350 event at Echo on the 24th.  There will be more info likely after the next meeting.

If you click on &quot;Blog&quot; on the top bar it will always bring you to the latest entry, and you can see the date of the post in the small light-brown box right above the comments of each post.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there!</p>
<p>This post is from May, so that would be a potential source of your confusion. <img src='http://www.patransitions.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The next general meeting, plus a film, will be October 13th.  Dan has secured the Abbeyfield space for the meeting and likely more meetings in the future.</p>
<p>The other event on the agenda is the 350 event at Echo on the 24th.  There will be more info likely after the next meeting.</p>
<p>If you click on &#8220;Blog&#8221; on the top bar it will always bring you to the latest entry, and you can see the date of the post in the small light-brown box right above the comments of each post.</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>Comment on TTPA Meeting Tomorrow Night:  Agenda by inquierer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is some confusion for me on whether tommorow September the 27th or October the 27th was meant.  The calender states October.

The Celender also mentions a meeting in basement of Abbey field Care Home on same date at Dan Shubert&#039;s meeting place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is some confusion for me on whether tommorow September the 27th or October the 27th was meant.  The calender states October.</p>
<p>The Celender also mentions a meeting in basement of Abbey field Care Home on same date at Dan Shubert&#8217;s meeting place.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transition Towns Port Alberni Blog is online! by Mike Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the latest from Jerry Rubin, one time the Chief Economist of CIBC. Peak Oil - get ready for the price to start climbing again. This is written by a journalist friend in Nova Scotia.


SUNDAY HERALD COLUMN - May 24, 2009 [HH0920]

PROPHET OF PETROLEUM

by Silver Donald Cameron

When Jeff Rubin said that oil was going to $50 a barrel, other 
economists thought he was on drugs. But it did. They scoffed again 
when he said it would go beyond $100. It went to $147 before dropping 
to $50. Don&#039;t be suckered, says Rubin. As the recession ends, oil 
will go far higher -- $200, $400, who knows?

For 20 years, Rubin was Chief Economist at CIBC World Markets. His 
newly-published book Why Your World Is About To Get a Whole Lot 
Smaller (Random House,$29.95) rests on a simple argument. Our entire 
globalized economy depends on cheap oil, but we have already burned 
most of the easily-obtained free-flowing oil. That&#039;s why we&#039;re now 
spending vast amounts to wring the difficult oil from the deep sea 
and the tar sands, because that&#039;s all that&#039;s left.

So the world&#039;s steadily-rising demand for oil ultimately can&#039;t be 
satisfied. According to conventional economics, when a thing is 
scarce, its price goes up. Higher prices stimulate more production, 
which drives the price down again. But not this time. With the easy 
oil already used, we&#039;ll be hard-pressed even to maintain today&#039;s 
production for very long. More and more dollars will chase less and 
less oil, and the price will soar.

When the oil price jumps, the economy slumps. One of Rubin&#039;s 
startling assertions is that four of the last five world recessions 
were caused by upward spikes in oil prices -- two after the OPEC oil 
shocks of the 1970s, one after Iraq invaded Kuwait and torched its 
oil wells, and another one right now. This recession, Rubin contends, 
is a result not of malodorous mortgages in Middle America, but of $147 oil.

There&#039;s a pattern, says Rubin. The oil price rises, and the economy 
stalls. The demand for oil then drops sharply, and the oil price 
falls. Consumers and producers alike heave a sigh of relief and get 
back to work until the next spike. But notice this: the prices always 
ratchet upward. In 2000, when Rubin predicted $50 oil, a $30 price 
was considered high. Just eight years later, we regard $50 oil as cheap.

Without cheap oil, the globalized economy withers. As fuel costs 
become prohibitive, companies stop importing raw materials and 
shipping products halfway around the world. High transport costs, 
says Rubin, work exactly the same as a tariff, penalizing 
imports. Firms realize that they can compete more effectively if 
their factory is close to the consumer.

The bad news is, no more Chinese-made bargains at Wal-Mart, no more 
cheap food from California and Chile. The good news is, a lot more 
jobs in factories close to home, and a bright new dawn for local agriculture.

Coping with climate change will also erode globalization. Rubin 
predicts that the US will soon impose mandatory carbon controls on 
its own industries -- and will insist that its trading partners cut 
their own emissions too, or face a carbon tariff for their products 
at the border.

Indeed, a carbon-control bill now in Congress includes a provision to 
impose tariffs on imports from countries with lax climate-change 
rules. The main target is China, but Stephen Harper&#039;s Canada is not 
exempt. Expect hard questions about the tar sands, for instance. Bob 
Page, an Alberta energy executive, chairs the national roundtable on 
environment and the economy, a true fox in the henhouse. He condemns 
the Congressional initiative as &quot;protectionism.&quot; I&#039;d call it &quot;leadership.&quot;

The inevitable adjustments will be painful for a small province that 
generates power from coal and heats its homes with oil, but we may 
like the eventual results. Think of walkable neighbourhoods, 
efficient public transit, revitalized small towns and villages, close 
relationships between local businesses and customers. Cleaner air, 
safer food, healthier forests. How bad is that? Europeans, Rubin 
notes, already live like that. In 1950 we lived that way too, and we 
thought our lives were pretty good.

Is Rubin correct? Well, this summer, Marjorie and I are going to 
insulate and tighten the house, build a woodshed and install a solar 
hot water heater. Last winter&#039;s oil prices were an unexpected gift. 
They gave us a chance to prepare for the next spike -- and we&#039;re not 
going to waste it.

-- 30 --

Silver Donald Cameron
24 Armshore Drive, Halifax, NS B3N 1M5
(902)446-5577 fax (902)446-6099
www.silverdonaldcameron.ca

&quot;In theory there&#039;s no difference between theory and practice. In 
practice there is.&quot;
-- Yogi Berra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the latest from Jerry Rubin, one time the Chief Economist of CIBC. Peak Oil &#8211; get ready for the price to start climbing again. This is written by a journalist friend in Nova Scotia.</p>
<p>SUNDAY HERALD COLUMN &#8211; May 24, 2009 [HH0920]</p>
<p>PROPHET OF PETROLEUM</p>
<p>by Silver Donald Cameron</p>
<p>When Jeff Rubin said that oil was going to $50 a barrel, other<br />
economists thought he was on drugs. But it did. They scoffed again<br />
when he said it would go beyond $100. It went to $147 before dropping<br />
to $50. Don&#8217;t be suckered, says Rubin. As the recession ends, oil<br />
will go far higher &#8212; $200, $400, who knows?</p>
<p>For 20 years, Rubin was Chief Economist at CIBC World Markets. His<br />
newly-published book Why Your World Is About To Get a Whole Lot<br />
Smaller (Random House,$29.95) rests on a simple argument. Our entire<br />
globalized economy depends on cheap oil, but we have already burned<br />
most of the easily-obtained free-flowing oil. That&#8217;s why we&#8217;re now<br />
spending vast amounts to wring the difficult oil from the deep sea<br />
and the tar sands, because that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s left.</p>
<p>So the world&#8217;s steadily-rising demand for oil ultimately can&#8217;t be<br />
satisfied. According to conventional economics, when a thing is<br />
scarce, its price goes up. Higher prices stimulate more production,<br />
which drives the price down again. But not this time. With the easy<br />
oil already used, we&#8217;ll be hard-pressed even to maintain today&#8217;s<br />
production for very long. More and more dollars will chase less and<br />
less oil, and the price will soar.</p>
<p>When the oil price jumps, the economy slumps. One of Rubin&#8217;s<br />
startling assertions is that four of the last five world recessions<br />
were caused by upward spikes in oil prices &#8212; two after the OPEC oil<br />
shocks of the 1970s, one after Iraq invaded Kuwait and torched its<br />
oil wells, and another one right now. This recession, Rubin contends,<br />
is a result not of malodorous mortgages in Middle America, but of $147 oil.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pattern, says Rubin. The oil price rises, and the economy<br />
stalls. The demand for oil then drops sharply, and the oil price<br />
falls. Consumers and producers alike heave a sigh of relief and get<br />
back to work until the next spike. But notice this: the prices always<br />
ratchet upward. In 2000, when Rubin predicted $50 oil, a $30 price<br />
was considered high. Just eight years later, we regard $50 oil as cheap.</p>
<p>Without cheap oil, the globalized economy withers. As fuel costs<br />
become prohibitive, companies stop importing raw materials and<br />
shipping products halfway around the world. High transport costs,<br />
says Rubin, work exactly the same as a tariff, penalizing<br />
imports. Firms realize that they can compete more effectively if<br />
their factory is close to the consumer.</p>
<p>The bad news is, no more Chinese-made bargains at Wal-Mart, no more<br />
cheap food from California and Chile. The good news is, a lot more<br />
jobs in factories close to home, and a bright new dawn for local agriculture.</p>
<p>Coping with climate change will also erode globalization. Rubin<br />
predicts that the US will soon impose mandatory carbon controls on<br />
its own industries &#8212; and will insist that its trading partners cut<br />
their own emissions too, or face a carbon tariff for their products<br />
at the border.</p>
<p>Indeed, a carbon-control bill now in Congress includes a provision to<br />
impose tariffs on imports from countries with lax climate-change<br />
rules. The main target is China, but Stephen Harper&#8217;s Canada is not<br />
exempt. Expect hard questions about the tar sands, for instance. Bob<br />
Page, an Alberta energy executive, chairs the national roundtable on<br />
environment and the economy, a true fox in the henhouse. He condemns<br />
the Congressional initiative as &#8220;protectionism.&#8221; I&#8217;d call it &#8220;leadership.&#8221;</p>
<p>The inevitable adjustments will be painful for a small province that<br />
generates power from coal and heats its homes with oil, but we may<br />
like the eventual results. Think of walkable neighbourhoods,<br />
efficient public transit, revitalized small towns and villages, close<br />
relationships between local businesses and customers. Cleaner air,<br />
safer food, healthier forests. How bad is that? Europeans, Rubin<br />
notes, already live like that. In 1950 we lived that way too, and we<br />
thought our lives were pretty good.</p>
<p>Is Rubin correct? Well, this summer, Marjorie and I are going to<br />
insulate and tighten the house, build a woodshed and install a solar<br />
hot water heater. Last winter&#8217;s oil prices were an unexpected gift.<br />
They gave us a chance to prepare for the next spike &#8212; and we&#8217;re not<br />
going to waste it.</p>
<p>&#8211; 30 &#8211;</p>
<p>Silver Donald Cameron<br />
24 Armshore Drive, Halifax, NS B3N 1M5<br />
(902)446-5577 fax (902)446-6099<br />
<a href="http://www.silverdonaldcameron.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.silverdonaldcameron.ca</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In theory there&#8217;s no difference between theory and practice. In<br />
practice there is.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Yogi Berra</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transition Towns Port Alberni Blog is online! by Harald Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.patransitions.net/2009/05/16/transition-towns-port-alberni-blog-is-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Harald Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 05:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on getting this up and running!
Hopefully we will soon have a public face to our efforts in the Capital Region.  We are currently aiming at starting movie and discussion evenings in the fall.
For me, the overriding urgency pertains to food!  This Island is at the end of the supply chain bringing in 95% of our food and 95% of our energy.   If there is ever a run on fuel (as suggested my Mat Simmons – see Youtube), or the droughts in California become worse, we will suddenly become aware how vulnerable we are.
Hopefully we will soon have a whole bunch of Transition-style initiatives going from down here up to Port Hardy.  Then we can start some serious networking and figure out how we can help each other in our Energy Descent strategies.
I don&#039;t think the &quot;Hundred Mile Diet&quot; approach makes much sense on an island.  I&#039;d rather know what food is being grown in the Comox Valley or seafood landed in PA than expect to be supplied by ferry from Washington State, only 50km away.
The other day I was in the Super Store and saw they were selling frozen carrots from Israel!  Can you imagine – carrots from the desert!  They were probably irrigated with desalinated water, produced with coal-generated electricity, then shipped halfway around the world for our pleasure and convenience!
We&#039;ve just discovered that here in Saanich – largest community on the Island – we are not allowed to have backyard chickens unless we have a 12,000 sq ft lot – about twice the average suburban lot!  No, industry really wants us to buy the factory-produced poultry products from Abbotsford, and industry calls the shots.
We&#039;ve got a lot of battles ahead of us, but Transition will help with positive motivation.
Harald Wolf – hwolf  wolfweb  ca
Greater Victoria Transition Initiative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on getting this up and running!<br />
Hopefully we will soon have a public face to our efforts in the Capital Region.  We are currently aiming at starting movie and discussion evenings in the fall.<br />
For me, the overriding urgency pertains to food!  This Island is at the end of the supply chain bringing in 95% of our food and 95% of our energy.   If there is ever a run on fuel (as suggested my Mat Simmons – see Youtube), or the droughts in California become worse, we will suddenly become aware how vulnerable we are.<br />
Hopefully we will soon have a whole bunch of Transition-style initiatives going from down here up to Port Hardy.  Then we can start some serious networking and figure out how we can help each other in our Energy Descent strategies.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;Hundred Mile Diet&#8221; approach makes much sense on an island.  I&#8217;d rather know what food is being grown in the Comox Valley or seafood landed in PA than expect to be supplied by ferry from Washington State, only 50km away.<br />
The other day I was in the Super Store and saw they were selling frozen carrots from Israel!  Can you imagine – carrots from the desert!  They were probably irrigated with desalinated water, produced with coal-generated electricity, then shipped halfway around the world for our pleasure and convenience!<br />
We&#8217;ve just discovered that here in Saanich – largest community on the Island – we are not allowed to have backyard chickens unless we have a 12,000 sq ft lot – about twice the average suburban lot!  No, industry really wants us to buy the factory-produced poultry products from Abbotsford, and industry calls the shots.<br />
We&#8217;ve got a lot of battles ahead of us, but Transition will help with positive motivation.<br />
Harald Wolf – <a href="mailto:hwolf  wolfweb  ca">hwolf  wolfweb  ca</a><br />
Greater Victoria Transition Initiative</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transition Towns Port Alberni Blog is online! by chrisale</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can hardly wait to see you there Mike and to see your paper!  

I know you&#039;ve been wanting to come.  And I know you know the door is wide open! :)

I think there is a real undercurrent happening right now... people are recognizing that the past 50 years have done a lot of unnecessary damage to our society, our economy, and our environment.... and people are feeling a need to change and put things right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can hardly wait to see you there Mike and to see your paper!  </p>
<p>I know you&#8217;ve been wanting to come.  And I know you know the door is wide open! <img src='http://www.patransitions.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think there is a real undercurrent happening right now&#8230; people are recognizing that the past 50 years have done a lot of unnecessary damage to our society, our economy, and our environment&#8230;. and people are feeling a need to change and put things right.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Transition Towns Port Alberni Blog is online! by Mike Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.patransitions.net/2009/05/16/transition-towns-port-alberni-blog-is-online/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 19:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I will try and make the meeting on the 27th. I am anxious to try and be involved at the local level. It seems my work, which includes many of the concerns of the Transition Town movement, keeps me so away from my own town, that I rarely make a contribution directly where I live. 

I am currently working on a short 30-35 page paper with a colleague from the New Economics Foundation in the UK that hopefully may be of some use here locally. It should be ready at the end of June. I would love to have people critique it here locally, if they are interested and willing. 

After consultation around the draft, we will be releasing in, likely in October. This will be a joint release of the Canadian Centre for Community Renewal, the Rebuilding Society Network in Wales, the New Economics Foundation and the BC-Alberta Social Economy Research Alliance.

Anyways, we are hoping it might provoke thinking about the practical challenges we have to face in localities and regions around food, fuel, finance, fashion and fun. The last one is not unimportant as we enter into the most challenging century the human species has ever faced. 

I am looking forward to connecting with fellow citizens to help navigate the incredible SEE Change we need to make (Social, Ecological, Economic) All the best. Hope to see you on the 27th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I will try and make the meeting on the 27th. I am anxious to try and be involved at the local level. It seems my work, which includes many of the concerns of the Transition Town movement, keeps me so away from my own town, that I rarely make a contribution directly where I live. </p>
<p>I am currently working on a short 30-35 page paper with a colleague from the New Economics Foundation in the UK that hopefully may be of some use here locally. It should be ready at the end of June. I would love to have people critique it here locally, if they are interested and willing. </p>
<p>After consultation around the draft, we will be releasing in, likely in October. This will be a joint release of the Canadian Centre for Community Renewal, the Rebuilding Society Network in Wales, the New Economics Foundation and the BC-Alberta Social Economy Research Alliance.</p>
<p>Anyways, we are hoping it might provoke thinking about the practical challenges we have to face in localities and regions around food, fuel, finance, fashion and fun. The last one is not unimportant as we enter into the most challenging century the human species has ever faced. </p>
<p>I am looking forward to connecting with fellow citizens to help navigate the incredible SEE Change we need to make (Social, Ecological, Economic) All the best. Hope to see you on the 27th.</p>
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